Disappearing Languages http://www.commongroundradio.org/shows/04/0415.shtml#6
Time: 00.00 - 03.43
Prelistening
1. What do you understand by hard science and
soft science? Can you give
examples of each? What do the terms qualitative
and quantitative mean?
2. Divide the following words into two groups and
give them titles.
speaker publish
a study lead
author indigenous
interdisciplinary fellowship monolingual communicate PhD candidate
3. What is language death? Can you name any dead or dying languages?
Listening
Listen to the recording and decide whether the
following statements are true (T) or false -F).
Note down a few words to justify your decision.
1. There are around 6000 languages in the world and
at least half may disappear.
2. The study by Danny Abrams
and Steven Strogatz is unusual because it considers
the social status of disappearing languages.
3. Abrams is a linguist
who uses mathematical techniques to answer language-related questions.
4. Abrams and Strogatz's study suggests that social status is an
important factor in language death.
5. Previous studies of social status were
quantitative; this is the first qualitative one.
6. Abrams and Strogatz are armchair linguists: they work on computers,
not with real people.
7. Quechua, the language of the Incas, is still
spoken by millions of people in South America.
8. Quechua is a healthy language at present, but it
is nevertheless facing a very serious threat.
9. Quechua is associated with a rural, oldfashioned lifestyle which is not popular with young
people.
10. Many
children can understand their Quechua-speaking grandparents but prefer to speak
Spanish.
11. It is hard for monolingual Quechua speakers to
find work in South American cities.
12. Educators want to revive Quechua by publishing
and broadcasting in the language.
Postlistening
Would you rather your child learned
a locally-relevant or traditional minority language (Italian or Nissart in Nice) or a more prestigious international
language such as English? What factors
would influence your choice?
Answers
1. There are around 6000 languages in the world and
at least half may disappear. T
2. The study by Danny Abrams
and Steven Strogatz is unusual because it considers
the social status of disappearing languages. F
PORTER:
Somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of the world's 6,000 languages are in
danger of dying out, possibly with the current generation. A new study
published in the journal Nature has found that the social status of a language
may be the most important factor determining whether it will survive. The
unusual thing is that this study, by Danny Abrams and
Steven Strogatz from Cornell University, used math to
study language. Judith Smelser asked lead author
Danny Abrams why an applied mathematics Ph.D.
candidate was dabbling in the field of linguistics.
3. Abrams is a linguist
who uses mathematical techniques to answer language-related questions. F
DANNY ABRAMS:
I actually received a fellowship to do interdisciplinary work for my first two years, and this project is the result of that fellowship. I
was looking for something that I could apply some
quantitative techniques to that is normally maybe seen as a field, as a
softer science such as linguistics.
4. Abrams and Strogatz's study suggests that social status is an
important factor in language death. T
JUDITH SMELSER:
And through working with that different sort of medium, your study found a
new leading cause of language death that hasn't been discussed very much in
past studies, and that's the social status of the language. Tell me a
little about what you mean by that and how it affects a language's ultimate
fate.
5. Previous studies of social status were
quantitative; this is the first qualitative one. F
ABRAMS:
The status of a language has been recognized before in the linguistics
literature as an important factor in determining whether people will continue
to speak that language, but it's always been discussed in the sense of case
studies or in the sense of kind of a qualitative idea of what makes people want
to speak a language. But the difference is in, my
study is I think the first quantitative view of this concept.
6. Abrams and Strogatz are armchair linguists: they work on computers,
not with real people. F
7. Quechua, the language of the Incas, is still
spoken by millions of people in South America.
T
SMELSER:
And your study found that concept of status to be very important, I know. In
fact you found that nearly every language in decline has a low social status.
Now, you did some field research for this report too, I understand, in
South America. What was that like—seeing your numbers and formulas playing out
in real life?
ABRAMS: I
did travel and collect some of my own data for one language, which is
Quechua; it's called Quechua. It's the former language of the Incan empire.
It's still spoken by about 10 million people throughout the Andes in South
America, the Andes regions.
[The sound of a song sung in Quechua]
8. Quechua is a healthy language at present, but it
is nevertheless facing a very serious threat.
T
9. Quechua is associated with a rural, oldfashioned lifestyle which is not popular with young
people. T
10. Many
children can understand their Quechua-speaking grandparents but prefer to speak
Spanish. F
ABRAMS: And I experienced first hand the sad sight of a language
that is, that is on the verge of disappearance. Although Quechua is
considered one of the most healthy indigenous
languages of the Americas—it's the largest—it unfortunately is disappearing
very quickly because children and young people are not learning it. They
associate it with rural areas and with farmers and with an older lifestyle that
they don't want to be a part of, and for that reason, all the adults in
many of the cities in Peru and Bolivia and Ecuador can understand Quechua, but
their children might not be able to, and it can be as extreme as the
children not being able to even communicate with grandparents who are
monolingual—grandparents that are monolingual in Quechua and grandchildren that
are monolingual in Spanish.
SMELSER:
Did you see evidence in South America of Quechua having a low social status,
like your mathematical model would suggest? For example is it hard for Quechua
speakers to get jobs there?
11. It is hard for monolingual Quechua speakers to
find work in South American cities. T
12. Educators want to revive Quechua by publishing
and broadcasting in the language. F
ABRAMS:
I certainly think that, that's a big part of it. The truth is if a monolingual
speaker of Quechua today really does not have any opportunity to at least
find work in a city as a monolingual speaker of Quechua. Or there's very few opportunities, if there are any. Also,
education is difficult to find in Quechua; there'a
very few, there are a few programs that have been started recently, but it's
difficult to find. And there's no, very few published books in Quechua, very
few TV shows in Quechua, so I think all these things are indicators and
possibly causes of the low prestige of the language.
Transcript
PORTER:
Somewhere between 50 and 90 percent of the world's 6,000 languages are in
danger of dying out, possibly with the current generation. A new study
published in the journal Nature has found that the social status of a
language may be the most important factor determining whether it will survive.
The unusual thing is that this study, by Danny Abrams
and Steven Strogatz from Cornell University, used
math to study language. Judith Smelser asked lead
author Danny Abrams why an applied mathematics Ph.D.
candidate was dabbling in the field of linguistics.
DANNY ABRAMS:
I actually received a fellowship to do interdisciplinary work for my first two
years, and this project is the result of that fellowship. I was looking for
something that I could apply some quantitative techniques to that is normally
maybe seen as a field, as a softer science such as linguistics.
JUDITH SMELSER:
And through working with that different sort of medium, your study found a new
leading cause of language death that hasn't been discussed very much in past
studies, and that's the social status of the language. Tell me a little about
what you mean by that and how it affects a language's ultimate fate.
ABRAMS:
The status of a language has been recognized before in the linguistics
literature as an important factor in determining whether people will continue
to speak that language, but it's always been discussed in the sense of case
studies or in the sense of kind of a qualitative idea of what makes people want
to speak a language. But the difference is in, my
study is I think the first quantitative view of this concept.
SMELSER:
And your study found that concept of status to be very important, I know. In
fact you found that nearly every language in decline has a low social status.
Now, you did some field research for this report too, I understand, in South
America. What was that like—seeing your numbers and formulas playing out in
real life?
ABRAMS:
I did travel and collect some of my own data for one language, which is
Quechua; it's called Quechua. It's the former language of the Incan empire.
It's still spoken by about 10 million people throughout the Andes in South
America, the Andes regions.
[The sound of a song sung in Quechua]
ABRAMS:
And I experienced first hand the sad sight of a language that is, that is on
the verge of disappearance. Although Quechua is considered one of the most healthy indigenous languages of the Americas—it's the
largest—it unfortunately is disappearing very quickly because children and
young people are not learning it. They associate it with rural areas and with
farmers and with an older lifestyle that they don't want to be a part of, and
for that reason, all the adults in many of the cities in Peru and Bolivia and
Ecuador can understand Quechua, but their children might not be able to, and it
can be as extreme as the children not being able to even communicate with
grandparents who are monolingual—grandparents that are monolingual in Quechua
and grandchildren that are monolingual in Spanish.
SMELSER:
Did you see evidence in South America of Quechua having a low social status,
like your mathematical model would suggest? For example is it hard for Quechua
speakers to get jobs there?
ABRAMS:
I certainly think that, that's a big part of it. The truth is if a monolingual
speaker of Quechua today really does not have any opportunity to at least find
work in a city as a monolingual speaker of Quechua. Or there's
very few opportunities, if there are any. Also, education is difficult to find
in Quechua; there'a very few, there are a few
programs that have been started recently, but it's difficult to find. And
there's no, very few published books in Quechua, very few TV shows in Quechua,
so I think all these things are indicators and possibly causes of the low
prestige of the language.